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Think, Christian

Updated: Mar 17

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The following comments about life in the military are from some of my readers. Although the Bible says that “in the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established” (2 Corinthians 13:1), I present here four “witnesses.”

My first witness is R. M., an Army veteran from Massachusetts:

I remember my Vietnam “era” service. Pornography (in the PX) and Prostitution (downtown Leesville) were readily available at Fort Polk. Sometimes the drugs were so pervasive in the billets that I thought we might draw anti-aircraft fire, the place got so high. Alcohol abuse? No comment necessary. Kipling said it best: “Men who live in barracks are never plaster saints.”

My second witness is J. O., a Marine Corps veteran from Colorado:

I just finished reading “God Bless our Troops?” and I agree 100%. I served from 89—93 USMC infantry along with growing up a military dependent and I know many of those Christians who are just as you described. It boggles my mind to hear their comments regarding the military especially since most admit that they have not served nor been a dependent at any point in their lives. They make the military especially the Marines and Army infantry MOS’s specifically out to be, well, almost like King Arthur’s Knights in shining armor or something. I am left scratching my head after hearing their descriptions and saying: “But that’s not how it is.” The unit I was in along with men from other units we mainly went out drinking, looking for sex, and the occasional fight at each liberty call we got. That was just fun for us.

I try to tell these Christians some of my past experiences but they don’t want to hear it. I even went so far as to show some uncut raw Reuters footage of Marines in action in Iraq that I found, cussing and all. They either didn’t want to see it or were offended by the cussing or something. As they are walking away I say, “Why are you offended? Its just the way they talk is all. Its like that in peacetime as well.” On another occasion I’ll sit there laughing at one marine’s joke on a video (crude and sexual) and the Christians get really offended. Once again I say that’s just the sense of humor besides its funny as hell!

I just don’t understand Christians like Jerry Falwell for example. I am still left scratching my head because I have never in my life experienced the type of “military” that they describe or envision.

My third witness is L. G., an Army veteran from South Dakota:

I just read your piece from today’s Lew Rockwell. Well put. I find it hard to believe that so many nominal Christians’ think that the military is some kind of enclave of virtue. I was in the Army for 4 years (’84—’88). Let us forget, for a moment, that the purpose of the military is to kill and destroy property — as if that is not bad enough. How does the military hold up when it comes to instilling what Christians call “values”? Well, I was shocked at the pervasiveness of drunkenness and sexual immorality among my fellow soldiers. A half-hearted review of the divorce and unwed pregnancy statistics of military personnel would give one an outline for a book on military culture. Go to a VA hospital and see which department is the busiest — it will be the alcohol and drug treatment program. Military culture is rotten to the core (despite the clean-shaven, spit-shined façade), and it corrupts those who enter therein.

My fourth witness is T. S., a Navy veteran from Florida:

As a Christian, I made a foolish decision to enlist in the United States Navy. I served from 1990 to 1994. At the age of 18 I entered boot camp. I was placed in a company of 80 men. Never did I meet one professing Christian. It was either mold to the ways of the others or be a cast out. The military has very few standards when it comes to sexual perversion, filthy communication, or alcohol abuse. The military does have some strict standards when it comes to drug abuse, but that did not stop two Marines and I from obtaining a large sum of hashish in Spain. Many other Marines and Sailors purchased drugs that were brought and used upon the ship. Pornography and sexual perversion is out of control within the United States Military. Many a young man was first introduced to pornography within the military. God only knows the number of innocent minds that have been perverted. I can remember walking into a break room full of sailors on my ship and there on the television I saw hard-core pornography. I still suffer from some of the things these eyes saw in the Navy. I also recall the military sponsoring strippers at the club on base.

I also became a drinker of alcohol within the military. It was easy to obtain alcohol on the Little Creek Amphibious Base, either from the club or from beer vending machines. The sale and drinking of alcohol is not discouraged but encouraged by many within the ranks of the United States Military. I can remember coming back from the Persian Gulf in 1991. Our ship had not seen a port of call in months. Our only stop before crossing back over the Atlantic was in Rota, Spain. Now, what do you think was on the mind of every sailor that day? I can tell you for I was there. Every sailor was either drunk, stoned, or seeking sex through one of the numerous prostitutes available at a very cheap price.

My conclusion is this: If Christians desire their son or daughter to live by Christian values, they should not allow them to join the United States Military. Many Christians will not allow their children to attend public schools, but then allow them to join an evil, wicked, and murderous United States Military.


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